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  The Emerging 'Schizophrenic' Witness

  by metatron in

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  i have a 'loyal' witness relative suffering various watchtower-related trials, who, i believe, represents an emerging.

  new form of jehovah's witness.

  she seems to have a sort of 'spiritual schizophrenia'.

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  it's starting to fall, and I don't think they can stop the bleeding.

  So would mine after 60 hours of sex in a month!!
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  Nazareth/ Nazarene revisited

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to post this as an alternative explanation for the nazareth/nazarene description of the christian savior.

  here before i posted another possible explanation for the word that involved galilean dialect and possible confusion between the words nazarite and nazareth by the authors of matthew and luke.

  the following possible explanation seems to have merit and is held by many scholars as the most probable reason the for the gospel reference to nazareth/nazarene when (to all available evidence) the city did not exist in the first century.

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  Pete,

  The community at Qumran (the area of the Dead Sea Scrolls) referred to themselves as 'Keepers of the Covenant' or in Hebrew 'Nozrei ha-Brit'.

  Professor Eisenman argues that the 'Nozrim', a Hebrew word for the early Christian movement comes from this phrase. (James the Just p99). The modern Arabic word for Christians 'Nasrani' comes from the same source. So too does the word 'Nazorean' or 'Nazarene' At Acts 24:5 Paul is called the 'ringleader of the sect of the nazarenes'.

  A lack of evidence suggests that Nazareth did not exist at the time of Jesus' childhood. The early gospel writers confused the term 'Nasorean' with the town Nazareth which had then appeared. The term describes the sect of the 'Keepers of the Covenant' and is nothing to do with the town of Nazareth.
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  Do you believe in Armageddon ??? Watchtower sure scares them good !!!

  by run dont walk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  alot of discussion referring to the new book released learning from the great teacher, and the scene of armageddon page.

  what a pile of garbage, how could the society justify in publishing such pics.. if/when armageddon comes (which i doubt), it probaly would not take more than one minute.

  i cannot see people running around screaming in terror, with their clothes torn and beating each other up, like the watchtower portrays, just another scare tactic for the watchtower.

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  In the human court system a person has to undergo a trial, a sentence and the punishment

  Mizpah - but you don't have to go to trial for something your parent or ancestor has done. But I agree that if one believes in the bible then you have to accept that God sits in judgement over mankind. In my view though the God of the bible, especially the old testament is not very just. There are many accounts of his unjust decisions. 2 Sam 24:13 shows that God sends a pestilence to kill 70,000 men because David had conducted a census. What did these 70,000 men do wrong?

  Maybe Yahweh should apply his own words at Deut 24:16 "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, nor shall the children be put to death for the fathers; every man shall be put to death for his own sin" (RSV)
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  Furuli's New Books--Attempt to Refute COJonsson

  by ros in

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  2. friends

  i just heard that the norwegian watchtower apologist, rolf furuli, who esteems himself a biblical scholar of semetic languages, has completed the first of two volumes he plans to publish on the societys chronology, assyrian, babylonian, egyptian and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible.. title of this first volume is: persian chronology and the length of the babylonian exile of the jews.. i hear that although carl olof jonsson is not mentioned by name, or reference made to his book "gentile times reconsidered," it is nevertheless apparent that these volumes are an attempt to refute jonssons excellent study which has exposed the watchtowers 1914 date as total folly.. .

  the book can be ordered now from furulis new personal website:.

  http://folk.uio.no/rolffu/.

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  Come on scholar - what is your real reason for posting here?

  I am suspicious of individual who have converted as a Witness after a considerble time of education and reflection whereupon such an individual was convinced intellectually and nourished in faith to being baptized. Now, for unexplained amd for irrational reasoms they now find that what they once believed is now error

  This is becoming a theme of your recent posts. I don't think you even believe this last statement. I do think you are taking the piss.
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  The New World Translation

  by MrsQ in

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  can anyone give me an explanation of how the nw translation came about?

  who, exactly, were on this bible translation committee, and what were their qualifications?

  when was it first published?.

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  For starters, 5, 59639 has direct secular evidence and the biblical narrative to support this date as the fall of Babylon, the fall of Jerusalem also has many scriptures which fod and described the event similar to Babylons. fall. The main difference between the fall of both cities is that there is no direct secular evidence for Jerusalem as there is with Babylon. The fall of Jerusalem can only be calculated with scripture only with a secular fixed date which is not the same with the calculation of Bavylon. In short, it is only the fall of Babylon that that has an independent chronological base. For this reason the fall of Jerusalem is not regardeda as a absolute or pivtal date as with the fall of Babylon in 539. Also, this is the reason why scholars cannot determine whether it is 586 or 587 for Jerusalem' fall. The society under the guidance of holy spirit and holy writ has determined that 607 is the only possible choice and we can all thank Jehovah and his Son for this amazing understabding.

  Whatever scholar is drinking - I'll have the same!
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  The New World Translation

  by MrsQ in

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  2. friends

  can anyone give me an explanation of how the nw translation came about?

  who, exactly, were on this bible translation committee, and what were their qualifications?

  when was it first published?.

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  O.K. Scholar. Come clean. Admit you are having a laugh!
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  Ever Met A Guy/Girl At A JW Convention?

  by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  have you ever met a single guy/girl at a jw convention, and thought so highly of him/her until you really found out what they were like?

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  When I was in my teens I met a girl at the District Assembly and then spent the next 12 months writing to her and thinking about her. When the Assembly finally came round again and we met up I suddenly realised that she was a bit on the ugly side. And she was far too spiritual!
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  My wife’s and I meeting with two elders. Their true colors shine through…

  by Winston Smith :>D in

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  2. experiences

  i thought id give you an update re whats going on.

  my qing the wts of recent has been very hard on my wife.

  if i could, i would change my timing of doing so, but its just the way it has happened.

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  Winston -

  I have nothing but respect for the patience you showed at this meeting. To remain so calm when these elders are saying these things to someone you love so much is amazing, but definitely the right way to react.

  I can't give any advice apart from continue to seek professional help and avoid any further meetings.

  JT - that comment was harsh and ignorant.
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  What If Jehovah's Witnesses Are Right?

  by shamus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the "what if" thing comes to mind... no matter how much i strongly believe that they are not, what if armageddon happened tomorrow and they were correct?

  would you have any sorrow for being wrong???.

  i, personally would not.

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  If they are right then Armageddon will destroy ALL my friends and most of my family so I might as well die with them.

  Who wants to pick and carry bowls of fruit for an eternity anyway?
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  Update on study with Elder....

  by shotgun in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i took the advice of the forum and informed him i wouldlike to study the bible.

  he arrived case in hand and pulled out the draw close to jehovah publication.. i said i thought we were going to study the bible...he then said well this is a bible publication...i said has not past publications contained errors and changes in teachings while the bible remains true.

  he said yesssss.......do you have something inparticular you want to look at in the bible.....i said i thought we could start in matthew and work our way through.

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  Gamaliel - Looking at scholar's posts tonight I think he's been hitting the bottle!